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NYC's Bloomberg Fronts for Green Madness

April 27 -- GORE, NAZI BANKER ROHATYN, PUSH GREEN BIG MAC II TO
SAVAGE NYC.
Is Environmentalism a good excuse for Nazi style looting of the US population? Are you being sacrificed to the goddess Gaia (the Earth Goddess)? Yes, if you don't stop these lies. Of course Mayor Bloomberg is the meeting of billionaire Democrats and Republicans, who are playing the globalization game. Very slick, but no good.

Global warming is the latest pretext for a new fascist looting scheme against New York, and none other than Al Gore and Felix Rohatyn, the Lehman Brothers financier infamous for his role in the 1973 fascist Pinochet coup in Chile, have teamed up to push it through.

On Earth Day, New York billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced a
plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in his city by 30% by the year 2030,
by taxing New Yorkers and visitors to the city $8 for any weekday driving
in most of Manhattan. The mayor proposes the tax revenue thus gouged out
would fund a $30 billion regional transit financing authority.

Al Gore endorsed the plan, calling it gutsy, on April 26, but it was
Rohatyn who spilled the beans on its real purpose, in a {Financial Times}
commentary April 27. According to Rohatyn, Bloomberg’s regional financing
authority is a new, green version of the Municipal Assistance Corporation (Big MAC)
which he personally headed in the 1970s. Heading the Big MAC, Rohatyn ensured
bondholders got paid when the city went bankrupt in 1975, by increasing
sales taxes and savaging New York City basic public services
(education, health, garbage, fire, etc.) The city has yet to recover. (See EIR:
“NYC’s Big MAC: Rohatyn’s Model for Destroying Government).

This new scheme is yet another proof that Lyndon LaRouche was right,
when he warned Democrats that the party will not survive, until it kicks out
such financier vultures as Gore and Rohatyn.
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1. April 29th 2007 @ 02:18. S.L. Says:
They should be kicked out of the country, Howard. Their looting won't stop at NY City. Their "Carbob Footprint Buyers" are all over the place and scamming like crazy. Apparently they know it won't last and are plannning to get as much as they can before everyone gets wise. Environmentalists they're not, criminals, they are!
2. April 29th 2007 @ 08:41. Brenton Says:
Quick MoneyMan, Press the PANIC Button!!!
3. April 30th 2007 @ 00:48. Ahmed Says:
As you can see S.L thinks everyone who doesn't agree with her has to be kicked out of her country, don't anyone ever say I"m mean for being mean to her and don't ever get angry with most of Orble's community. No one can give a shit about the neo-conservative blogs (theres two words I never thought I'd use in the same sentence).

Isn't terrorism the newest and latest 'pretext for a new fascist looting scheme'? Seriously, global warming might make AL Gore slightly richer but to hell with that, war has made an oil company the most profitable in US history!
4. April 30th 2007 @ 02:10. Howard Says:
Terrorism and fear-mongering for "terrorism" can come in many forms, including selling the fear of environmental disaster. Of course we are part of the bio-sphere. Man forms the no-osphere over the biosphere, and using human creativity can transform and actually improve the environment. Carbon Dioxide is actually a natural resource that is used by plants with water and sunlight to create life and food, etc. Water vapor is the key greenhouse gas, and can be controlled by developing forests, farms, greening the desert, etc.

Anyway, by setting up a carbon futures and trading market, over everything, including the right to breathe (and exhale CO2), certain British empire circles like Prince Charles and Al Gore, intend to create a bigger financial bubble than the real estate market.

Of course the Iraq, or potential Iran war is a very bad precedent, for general, endless wars and bombings. Countries could be bombed for so-called environmental reasons. What if someone wanted to seize Brazil's Amazon region for example on globalist pretexts? So ultimately it is the same fight for the rights of people and nations to freedom and development, versus empire and destruction.
5. April 30th 2007 @ 02:19. Ahmed Says:
actually they do try that sort of stuff, it's called 'Environmental terrorism', you see the thing is, the environment being damaged by our negligence has real repercussions and while I don't endorse the actions of those people I understand it.

I don't necessarily approve with people profiting off of global climate change, it isn't nice, but it doesn't make the facts any less true.

You're just saying 'since Al Gore is making a couple of bucks out of it global warming is a lie', the only scientists that seem to agree global warming isn't real are either trying to get people to see the fuller picture, that is the whole earth is undregoing a huge climate change, not just necessarily warming , these people are often ridiculed by conservative types, then comes those other scientists who work for any number of companies that will lose profit (such as oil companies) if people start being environmentally cautious.
6. April 30th 2007 @ 03:29. Howard Says:
The "Global Warming" crisis is a giant swindle. CO2 just causes trace effects, water vapor is much more important as a greenhouse gas. This reminds me of the story about the Greenpeace guys who wanted to outlaw the element Chlorine! (As in NaCl, also known as salt.)

Global Warming is the latest excuse for a bunch of racists to kill billions of people. And believe me, if they turn corn into ethanol to substitute for gasoline, millions and billions will die, for nothing. (What do you think they eat in Mexico?).

"Global Warming" is a pub.rel. trick to get so-called liberals to act like worse than neo-cons and Nazis. The idea is not to "solve" environmental problems, the idea is to reduce the population, by any means, including those disgusting...(as Lord Bertrand Russell said repeatedly) including lying.

On the science side, the quickest primer is to search google video for the channel 4, UK, "WAG" production of "The Great Global Warming Swindle". Nuff said.
7. April 30th 2007 @ 04:36. Ahmed Says:
Once again, just because in a natural situation CO2 only contributes to 5% of global warming and water vapour does more it doesn't change the fact that we are pumping the atmosphere full of CO2, not to mention other harmful gasses.

So you claim millions will die if they turn ethanol into fuel? You know the US is the largest exporter of corn in the world? You know odds are corn demands are going to increase exponentially if it turns into a viable usage for fuel?

Though thats not the point, I don't think theres going to be a single miracle energy source thats going to replace oil, but so long as were on the line of thought of millions of people who might die, did you know many medicines are made from crude oil?

Lets go back to the aforementioned, you do realize global warming is drowning countries? The Solomon islands in 50 years may well be under the ocean? If you're going to blame this on natural events then you should also know natural events are not spontaneous and something like oceans rising is not something that will happen naturally over a period of 200 years (about the time we started getting really messy with the environment) it's something that will happen over a period of 1000 years.

You can nit pick little details but studies have shown there is a direct corelation between us polluting the environment and the environment acting unfavourably upon us, no doubt if we do continue looking for crude oil (which is running out on its own) millions will die as a direct result of the rising cost of medicine, which believe it or not will happen once oil rigs start sputtering and spewing.
8. April 30th 2007 @ 06:01. S.L. Says:
Howard, you're right on the money, as always. Ahmed, go have another glass of Mr. Gore's Kool Aid. You're not the only one drinking it, unfortunately.
9. April 30th 2007 @ 06:29. Ahmed Says:
Actually, unlike you and quite possibly Howard, I learned about global warming where I should have, at school, I know about the chemical processes behind it and have read about studies into global warming, unlike you I haven't been corrupted with politics.

If you read my comment (which I know you didn't):

I don't necessarily approve with people profiting off of global climate change, it isn't nice, but it doesn't make the facts any less true.

I'm not a political extremist, I don't jump on bandwagons, I don't tie myself down to one issue or the other, I, unlike you, look beyond petty political rivalry, if the issue is global climate change I don't ask such and such politician what he thinks, much less you, I know the science behind it.

Just like how folks try to argue evolution, same thing, global climate change isn't real because of such and such nit picky issue, OR it isn't an issue to worry about because god promised never to flood the earth again OR it isn't an issue because the rapture will come soon enough leaving behind all the evil liberals to drown in gods ocean or something or another.
10. April 30th 2007 @ 06:56. S.L. Says:
As always, Ahmed, you haven't got a clue... I'll explain it to you one more time and maybe you'll understand... but I doubt it. Volcanic action (one of which produces more carbon in the atmosphere than human kind has ever done), sunspots, and the natural temperature fluxes that planet Earth has undergone since the beginning of time are responsible for the "warming" effect. Polar bears aren't drowning (the famous picture was a plagerized fraud), the most the sea level could rise is a couple of inches, the ice caps aren't really melting (they've shrunken and grown all the way through time. When the norther cap shrinks, the southern one grows and vice versa), the hole in the ozone has been there awhile and we haven't burned to a crisp yet (btw, do you know when it first appeared? Neither does anyone else.) In the 1970's, Gore and other phonies screamed and squalled about "global cooling" and how the whole planet would be under an ice cap within a few years. Uh... are we? Nope. Of course not. And now he's trying to achieve some form of "credibility" with Global Warming. Well, hell, we didn't freeze, maybe we'll roast instead... He'll use whatever crack-brained scam he can come up with to get back in the spolight again. Or get into the Oval Office. So he won an Academy Award for his assinine movie. Big deal. That doesn't make it any more real than Spiderman. Now he's sucking up to the folks in charge of the Nobel Peace Prize. (How a fraud is elegible for a peace prize is beyone me... but Jimmy Carter got one, didn't he?)

There are dozens of reputable scientists who don't buy into Gores crock of crap. Plenty of articles have been written already, naming them. Some of those who jumped on his bandwagon to start with are jumping off... those who want to retain some shred of their credibility.

My motives have nothing to do with politics, Ahmed. It's a matter of education and common sense. One of my college courses was geology and I did some extensive research into the geologic record. From rock formations to ice cores, to dendrochronology, the proof is already there that the Earth has minor temperature changes over many millenium. The proof is also there that carbon levels have been much higher in the past (long before mankind had anything to do with anything.)

Ahmed, I suggest you learn something (besides spin) on a subject before running your face. It makes you look very foolish and accomplishes nothing else.
11. April 30th 2007 @ 12:10. Howard Says:
It's the usual game. If you "succeed" there will be more people, and then you "fail" again. It comes down to Prince Phillip's of UK's famous quote, to paraphrase: "I wish I could be reincarnated as a deadly virus, then I could help reduce the overpopulation".
12. April 30th 2007 @ 12:40. Brenton Says:
I know that I personally would consider Prince Phillip relevant to Climate Change.
13. April 30th 2007 @ 13:10. Howard Says:
It's the environmentalist movement. It is a tainted movement. It was explicitly created in the late 40s by people like Sir Julian Huxley of the UK as an extension of the old Eugenics Movement, the old Nazi Racist movement, around "Conservation". Or as Henry Kissinger put it in the USA's NSM 200, it is National Security to not let developing countries "use up our raw materials".

Prince Philip and the late Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands were the co-sponsors of the World Wildlife Fund. And Gore and his buddies are doing the same thing today, eugenics and all (link).

14. April 30th 2007 @ 13:58. Brenton Says:
Gahh, i feel silly now.

See, I thought it was about, like, nature.
15. April 30th 2007 @ 14:04. Howard Says:
Nature is very romantic, at least that is the so-called story. What can I tell you, it's not easy thinking, and it's often not pleasant, but it might save a life.
16. April 30th 2007 @ 21:40. Howard Says:
Ahmed, you got brainwashed in school by a bunch of teachers too stupid or terrified to think for themselves. Have you ever heard of a whorehouse? That's where they keep a lot of scientists today.

As for the Solomon Is., sinking, etc., processes like that, short of an earthquake take hundreds or thousands of years. This- you have to do something in the next 10 years- stuff is simply pushy Nazi propaganda. What if they told you you have to get into the ovens right away?

17. May 1st 2007 @ 06:07. Ahmed Says:
Yeah, I did some research and sure came up with proof that global climate change is a swindle, clearly I was brain washed by my teachers, how dumb I am.

Here, let me use the Kyoto protocols to disprove global warming.

Since companies have to exhume less pollution it means it will cost them more and inevitably cripple economies, so yes, global warming is false and I'm a moron for taking high school science in three different schools over a period of three years, damn teachers, they're all so liberal wanky hippy bastards.

Blame everyone but yourself, like trying to talk to some folks from the Nation of Islam, you try to reason with them but they tell ya it's all a conspiracy, that there were no white men 1500 years ago and some mad scientist created them, show them proof and they'll say it's a swindle or propaganda or whatever, it's the same here, sweetheart.

You can't disprove it because I am in the right, you don't like thinking about it being the truth so you blame it on such and such person, you claim about 8 high school teachers I've had are all 'too stupid' or 'too afraid' to 'think for themselves', I bet you'll extend that to anyone who disagrees with you with no proof (as always).

It's easy to point your finger and blame, it's what people who try to disprove global climate change do, and they do it a lot. It's amazing but it's the corner stone of any person arguing against our involvement in global climate change, that either I've been brainwashed or have been fed inaccurate data this or that, the irony is oil companies have scientists on the pay roll trying to disprove our involvement in it and they can never come up with anything lest it be beaten down by anyone with half a brain,

So keep at it, when you're wrong you try avoiding facts, you accuse people randomly and blindly, when you're wrong, you're wrong and this is the reaction to it, I always get this reaction. Not once has someone trying to dispute global warming has done it on scientific grounds, it's always science mixed with politics, failing that (as you just did) it's jsut random finger pointing and accusations.

So I'm going to say 'yes, I believe you, my teachers brainwashed me and all those credible scientists came from a whorehouse', oh I'm so smart. Conservative or not, whether or not I agree if Global Climate change is real or not, I'd be an absolute MORON to accept what you present to be as any sort of proof.
18. May 1st 2007 @ 07:35. S.L. Says:
Ahmed, you can still amaze me. I didn't think it was possible. You have the unique ability to turn everything into a personal assault on either yourself or Islam. Incredible. Go right ahead and believe in Glo-Bull Warming to your hearts content. When it doesn't happen, you'll have to deal with it just like the Glo-Bull Cooling advocates had to 30 years ago. I'm glad you went to high school. I'm sure your teachers were all brilliant scientists. O.K.? I went to college and studied geology, but that isn't nearly as impressive as your three high schools, is it? The USGS has ice cores that prove the existence of high levels of carbon so far in the past that mankind could have had nothing to do with it. What do you think caused that? Dinosaur gas, perhaps? The rocks contain levels of carbon far higher in the distant past, but maybe that was a fluke, right? As far as Glo-Bull Warming goes, in the dendrochronological record you can find the average of warm years and cold ones, wet ones and dry ones that prove the planet goes through little temperature changes on a fairly regular basis. Oh, but I forget, science has nothing to do with it, right? You and AlGore have decided that we have caused Glo-Bull Warming and real science is irrelevant. Boy, the high schools are sure doing their jobs these days, aren't they?
19. May 1st 2007 @ 09:00. Brenton Says:
Nature is very romantic, at least that is the so-called story. What can I tell you, it's not easy thinking, and it's often not pleasant, but it might save a life.

Wow. I read that twice, and realised that as nice as it sounds, you've managed to say NOTHING.

Ten Points Spin Dr.
20. May 1st 2007 @ 09:13. Howard Says:
I'm trying to be a little diplomatic. Nazism was also very "romantic", and had a strong green environmentalist streak, until they started World War II. Green crap was just to pacify the masses.
After the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy destroys the United States (if we let them) with this, they will all of a sudden discover that more CO2 is good for the rain forest or something. What a bunch of romantic crap!!!
21. May 1st 2007 @ 09:18. Brenton Says:
Would you like to specify how higher taxes on driving in a city is an attempt by Anglo-Dutch oligarchy to destroy the United States?
22. May 1st 2007 @ 12:15. Howard Says:
The NY City operation is just a microcosm. Of course, they are doing the same thing in London already.
The idea of say, lowering your "carbon footprint"by say 50%, is that the industrial activity of the nation is planned to decrease by 50%. This is on top of globalization destroying jobs everywhere already. On top of a debt ridden financial bubble ready to crash, ie. sub-prime Real Estate mortgages, LBOs, hedge funds, etc.
Then in addition, poor Third World nations will be forced for a pittance to sell their "carbon rights" and forego industrial development forever. That's NSM200, of Nixon, Kissinger et al.
Of course we could have development of safe nuclear power, but the Greenie zombies generally (like Al Gore) prohibit that as well. On top of that, think about Cheney's GWOT, and what that means for trade and development. See how it all adds up?
That's how the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy is destroying humanity. of course, there are alternatives (link).
23. May 1st 2007 @ 12:51. Ahmed Says:
S.L, the reason no one can have a reasonable conversation with you is because you turn everything into a personal attack,

I quote you:

"Ahmed, go have another glass of Mr. Gore's Kool Aid."

"As always, Ahmed, you haven't got a clue..."

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